the rachel maddow show, transcript 10/31/12
Thank you, my friend.
Thank you for staying with us for an hour at home.
As you know, half of my Halloween costume this year
Elderly lesbian scholar in cheap jacket. Boo.
Because it\'s October 31, in most parts of the country, children are dressed in costumes and they are joking or treating.
For our producer, will fermia, tonight means indulging the frog prince who lives in his house, who used to be his son, Elias.
It\'s Halloween today.
No matter where Halloween is, it\'s Halloween.
But it\'s not Halloween this year because it can\'t be Halloween.
Governor Chris Christie today postponed Halloween under executive orders from New Jersey, the state that was the worst hit by super storm Sandy.
The governor announced that New Jersey will postpone Halloween to Monday, November 5 this year in order to protect the New Jersey trick. or-
A handler for floods and wires, as well as fallen trees.
The workers are today repairing collapsed wires on the Thomas River, New Jersey.
Today, on the third day, nearly 2 million families in New Jersey still have no electricity.
In the sense of this country, even if there is only one person in each family in New Jersey who has no power, it is not true, there are two people, three or four people in each family, even if there is only one person, the number of households with no power in New Jersey will mean that on the third day, only those with no power in New Jersey map more than the population of these states.
This is a large number of Americans we are talking about here, and this is not over yet.
This is not something to do.
This is not the past tense.
There is still widespread flooding.
Today, the National Guard brought food and supplies to Hoboken, New Jersey.
He talked about Hoboken on the show last night, the terrible situation there.
Hoboken is a small town that runs straight through the Hudson River from Manhattan.
It\'s small, but there are 50,000 people in it.
You can see Hoboken clearly from the west end of New York City.
As of last night, the mayor said that as many as 20,000 people, with a population of 500 million, and as many as 200 million people are still trapped deep and impassable, flood pollution is growing.
The National Guard has been in contact with some of them since late last night and until today.
We will have more about this very dramatic situation in the near future.
The National Guard also arrived this morning in the city of munaji, New Jersey, where the storm flooded the town very, very quickly.
The people of Moonachie\'s various housing were caught, trapped, but especially the people of mobile houses had a very difficult time there.
National Guard members also arrived today with the assistance of Bellevue Hospital in New York City, which has been running on generators since the lower half of Manhattan was powered off Monday night, when Sandy landed
The basement of Bellevue hospital was flooded with 17 million gallons.
After that shooting, we showed you last night that hospital staff built a human chain in the stairwell, a human chain that covered the fuel for the 13-story backup generator on the roof.
Well, today the National Guard flew the fuel to the roof of the building by helicopter.
Today, they also asked individual soldiers to drag a tank of fuel on these 13-story stairs at a time.
But it turns out that even with those heroic and exhausting efforts, Bellevue\'s losses are much worse than expected.
By lunch time today, critically ill patients, including children, are evacuated to other hospitals one by one.
Evacuation efforts are continuing.
Today also gives us a clear and painful look at the aftermath of hell in the New York City community Monday night at Queens breeze point.
The fire burned 111 houses and 111 houses because the flood prevented firefighters.
Many firefighters live in the breeze.
This is a community that has lost a lot of first aid personnel on 9/11, and now it is.
Early this morning, a series of gas fires broke out in mantologin, a seaside town in New Jersey.
The gas pipeline burning there came from houses destroyed by the storm.
In this case, firefighters were not able to reach the flames because debris from the storm blocked their way.
This is the case today for the whole of New Jersey and many towns, in some cases where there is even electricity, long queues and deadlocks extending from any gas station with electricity and gas. Today, the U. S.
The Navy ordered three helicopters from the coast of New Jersey and New York.
The Hornet, Carter Hall and Mesa Cape Verde will provide landing platforms for any Coast Guard, National Guard or civilian agency helicopters that will assist in the rescue work if needed.
The New York Police Department released a rather amazing video today in which helicopter search and rescue teams airlifted people to the roof of Staten Island, New York City.
The death toll on Staten Island is 12, and at least 64 Americans are on the rise.
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie is with President Obama today at his landing in Atlantic City.
Together, they took navy one, the president\'s helicopter and toured some of the city\'s ruins along the New Jersey coastline.
Two politicians and two leaders are doing their best today to highlight the three of this day.
The country, the continuing natural disasters still have no time for party politics. (
Start Video Editing)GOV.
Chris Christie (R)
New Jersey: I want to thank the President.
We spent an important afternoon together to investigate the damage on the New Jersey West Coast line.
In order to be able to show this to the president in person, we took part in Navy one together.
We had a chance to discuss it in detail.
Then go to the shelter here, meet people and let them see the president and his concerns, and all of us are concerned about making sure things get back to normal as soon as possible.
We face many challenges.
Our challenge now is to get back to normal.
So what we need to do is to make sure that we restore power as soon as possible and that people have clean drinking water and waste water treatment plants working and hospitals are taken care of the way we need them, we let the children go back to school.
So I discussed all these issues with the president today and I am happy to report that when we were in the car he had taken immediate action to help us get these things and ride together
So I want to thank him for that.
He has worked closely with me since the storm hit.
I think it\'s our sixth conversation since the weekend and it\'s a good working relationship to make sure we do the work that people elect us to do.
I am very grateful to the president for his personal concern and sympathy for our country and the people of our country.
I heard this in a phone conversation with him, and today I witnessed it with my own eyes.
So we will continue to work hard.
US President Barack Obama: We are here for you.
We will not forget that we will follow up before you rebuild to make sure you get all the help you need.
At this point, our main focus is on New Jersey, New York state, especially lower Manhattan and Long Island, which are hit more than anyone else.
We are also very concerned about the situation in Connecticut.
We\'re also monitoring West Virginia, where some of the area is snowing.
But to a large extent, these four states are indeed the main victims of this incredible storm.
All we can do is put goods, water, generators, ambulances, food, medical supplies, emergency supplies in front and on stage, and we now have more than 2,000 FEMA personnel on site.
Now that we\'re leaving the search and rescue phase, it\'s their job to make sure they go out and talk to the various communities so that people know exactly how to get the help they need. (End Video Clip)
MADDOW: New Jersey Congressman Frank Palon was with Governor Christie today before the governor, and then spent a day doing a storm response with President Obama.
Senator Paron is with us now.
He represents the sixth Congressional constituency in New Jersey, and as you can see, it is a shoreline area that faces New York Harbor and the Atlantic Ocean.
Thank you very much for your time, sir.
I know it\'s hard now. REP. FRANK PALLONE (D)
New Jersey: Thank you.
MADDOW: I know that you have traveled through your area in the last few days.
What kind of damage do you see along the coast and in the cities of your area?
Palon: all kinds of damage.
I mentioned Union Beach to you before.
This is a place three or four blocks from the bay. from the Bay of ruitan, the storm came in and the waves hit the top of the house.
Some houses have just been completely washed away.
Others were smashed into rubble.
I have never seen such a thing before.
There are other places, like the Highlands of New Jersey, where almost the entire town is underwater, perhaps almost to the second floor of the house.
It seems that these houses are really no longer suitable for living.
So you have destroyed towns.
You are so incredible-I just came and I apologize for wearing this for myself, but I just came from Carteret and saw the gas explosion.
An explosion at our gas or gas station caused the destruction of five adjacent houses.
I was talking to the people there, because when the storm came in, I thought it knocked out the boiler or the water tank, the gas exploded, the house was on fire, four houses nearby were also on fire.
Rachel, there are all kinds of things.
I don\'t want to make a comparison with Hurricane Katrina.
I want to use it as an analogy.
But the analogy here may help, and when we recall Hurricane Katrina, and the significant impact that this has on our country and on our country, we rarely think of the initial storm, that is wind and rain.
We will consider the consequences.
Now, we are in the aftermath of this super storm Sandy.
What do you feel about dealing with aftercare-before we start rebuilding, rescuers, describing these explosions, these ongoing concerns, deal with ongoing damage now-how do you assess the response and coordination between federal, state, municipal authorities?
How are we doing?
I think we did a good job.
I mean, you heard what the president said and I have to say, I think his reaction is really great, really.
Unlike some of the things that happened during Hurricane Katrina, it was coordinated. MADDOW: Yes.
Palon: You know, Governor Christie is a Republican and works with President Obama.
From the president to the governor to the county and town.
So one of the things I did today, in fact, I was just on the phone before I came in, I talked to FEMA, trying to find an office and a staff in all parts of the area I saw today, they are working on it.
I also asked if they lost boardwalk or street and used that money for town recovery, like rebuilding their boardwalk or municipal buildings, I think there are 25% games in the state and local competitions
So we have already asked, and I believe the governor has asked today, because many of these towns are small and they can\'t afford 25% games.
So there is a lot of cooperation going on now.
This does not seem to be the case with Katrina.
MADDOW: When you call, someone is picking up your call for clarity, you get a response, you get-Palon: I really called FEMA, when I walked into your -- NBC building today, they called me back in less than 10 minutes.
Congressman Frank Palon represents the sixth Congressional constituency in New Jersey.
Sir, I know you were evacuated in person and there is no electricity now.
I know your staff are dealing with this as well.
It won\'t make things easier.
Good luck and keep in touch with us.
Palon: Thank you very much.
MADDOW: Thanks. All right.
Again, for reference, this is the Congressional constituency of Congressman Paron.
Do we have that map? There we go.
You can see that the whole coastal area, his area is marked in red, where we see the worst damage caused by this crisis.
Last night, on this show, we had a live conversation with a very, very hard-working Mayor, which was a bit shockinghit town.
This is what we broadcast last night.
This is the mayor of Hoboken, Dawn Zimmer, on the show around 9: 30 last night. m. Eastern. Note the time. (
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Dawn Zimmer, mayor of Hoboken, New Jersey (via telephone)
Half of our city may have been flooded.
About 20,000 of us are still at home.
You know, we\'re trying to make an evacuation plan to get the equipment here and try to get the National Guard in to help us with the equipment we absolutely need.
We are begging, pleading, and trying to get the National Guard to provide us with access equipment.
MADDOW: To be clear, to promote the word nationwide, I think it needs to be emphasized that this is not the case of the past, where Hoboken went through some bad things, you are reflecting now.
Hoboken is doing the work.
To be clear, Mayor Zimmer, how many people do you think are still trapped in Hoboken?
ZIMMER: I would say there are still about 20,000 to 25,000 people trapped in Hoboken. (END VIDEO CLIP)
MADDOW: So this was broadcast live on this show last night-it was, obviously, a very shocking news.
Just across the Hudson River in New York, 20,000 people needed help that night.
In the absence of necessary equipment or rescue personnel on site, people are in danger.
You can hear frustration and determination from the mayor\'s voice, which requires a response.
Now, not in theory, but now, nearly half of the city\'s population is trapped on the upper floors of their homes, and many of them cannot reach a safe place through a few feet of water, the mayor explained, the water is more and more mixed with sewage, a sewage treatment plant located on the edge of the town does not work, the sewage is returned to the water, and may also be in contact with the exposed live wire, which is 9: 30m.
In this program, the mayor sounded the alarm here.
About an hour and a half later, 11: 01. m.
The city of Hoboken posted the tweet last night.
\"The National Guard is here!
\"Specifically, the second battalion of the 13 th Infantry, with 12 vehicles, was able to cross the narrow streets of Hoboken in deep flood water and began to assess the needs of the city.
Their top priority is to get the most vulnerable people who are still tied to dry ground and then figure out who to help next.
With daylight, and looking at the destruction in the air, you can know how many things are going to be done, and about half of the cities are still underwater.
A trapped resident showed what it was like from his doorstep.
The National Guard today drove these high-water vehicles on flooded streets to rescue trapped people.
Yes, some people have been rescued with their pets, their very large pets, have people go to friends, or go to emergency shelters set up in several churches.
Today, other trapped residents can go out in small boats.
On the dry side of the city, neighbors gather together.
People who are still powered on have created temporary mobile charging stations, which are used by their neighbors while everyone is waiting for the flood to recede.
This is in progress.
The mayor warned that there was only one working pumping station and several pumping trucks that drained about 0. 5 billion gallons of water from the city streets, and that the process would take a few days.
Little Hoboken by the Hudson River is still in poor condition, and even now that the National Guard and the Federal Emergency Services Authority are present, Mayor Dawn Zimmer is still calling for more help.
Surprisingly, no deaths have been reported so far.
But the town shows that the storm is a crisis.
The aftermath of the storm is another in the most densely populated areas of the United States.
We will keep updating you as we learn more. (
MADDOW: six days before the election, America\'s largest population center was swallowed up after an unprecedented natural disaster.
By contrast, what the two presidential candidates did on the sixth day before the election was an important study. That`s ahead. (
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OBAMA: Governor Christie has been responding throughout the process.
He has been actively making sure the country comes out in front of this incredible storm, and I think the people of New Jersey recognize that he has worked wholeheartedly to make sure that the people of New Jersey are rebounding and stronger than before.
So I just want to thank him for his extraordinary leadership and partnership. (END VIDEO CLIP)
President Obama spent a day off the coast of New Jersey with Republican Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey today. (
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Christie: he has worked closely with me since the storm hit.
I think this is our sixth conversation since the weekend.
It\'s a good working relationship to make sure we do the work that people elect us to do.
I am very grateful to the president for his personal concern and sympathy for our country and the people of our country. (END VIDEO CLIP)
MADDOW: You know, in such a big disaster, you would expect a president to stand by and command the storm with the governor of the worst-hit state.
I mean, in general, this look is not a great concept.
However, it\'s extraordinary to see President Obama and Chris Christie standing together, praising each other and talking about the way they work together, see their efforts as governor and president to coordinate the state and federal government in response to the disaster.
Today, the reason this kind of thing has become notable is simply because President Obama is a Democrat, Chris Christie is a Republican, and Chris Christie is a Republican, he has been a very mean partisan critic of President Obama, a campaign agent for President Obama\'s opposition to Mitt Romney, in the presidential election that ended in six days.
Mitt Romney and today\'s campaign, the campaign that Chris Christie has been supporting, they made a somewhat remarkable decision today to go ahead and go back to the track of the campaign, restart the party campaign rally, even if the president still suspends his schedule so he can react to the storm
So what we saw on the split screen today is that President Obama left the White House on his way to the storm.
He ravaged New Jersey after his stop at FEMA headquarters, while Mitt Romney
Campaign mode in Tampa, Florida.
Then President Obama toured the West Coast of New Jersey to comfort the victims of Hurricane Sandy, while Mitt Romney held what he called a big victory rally outside Miami.
While the Romney campaign ensured that their most remote staff members said in front of the camera today that out of respect for the victims of the storm, they would avoid any partisan comments today, they said, on this very serious day, they will avoid any partisan attacks against President Obama, who said they would do so, but they clearly did not mean it, because at a rally in Wisconsin today, they asked the Republican president to talk about how the United States needs to fire Barack Obama, who said the battle to defeat President Obama was to fight for freedom in the country.
At a rally in Florida with Mitt Romney today, they asked the former Republican governor of the state, Jeb Bush, to talk about President Obama\'s failure to unite the country.
In the same incident, they asked a Republican state councillor to tell parents that they should threaten to take Halloween candy from any child of the Obama supporters they know tonight.
He suggested it.
I think he said Obama is a realtionist, so you can scare the kids and their Obama.
If you steal candy from the kids, support the parents to redistribute it.
That\'s the tone of Romney\'s campaign today.
Although they told the press corps that they would be very respectful and non-partisan and would not attack the president today.
It\'s just an extraordinary day, an extraordinary decision.
I mean, President Obama is expected to restart his campaign schedule tomorrow. But Mr.
Romney doesn\'t want to wait.
He started his campaign today.
Excuse me, are you still doing something else?
Will I make good use of it?
I\'m going back to the race. I\'m going to Florida.
Obviously you will be occupied otherwise. Well, I`m not.
This is amazing.
It was a great decision to start the campaign again today.
But to be honest, this is also an amazing gentleman.
Romney has never really stopped his campaign.
We reported the incident yesterday.
Yesterday afternoon, Romney was held in Dayton, Ohio.
The incident was previously billed as a victory rally in Dayton.
As the whole country is watching the natural disaster in the east, and the president has completely abandoned the campaign to deal with the crisis, the Romney campaign realized that it would be rough to continue the campaign.
The campaign communications director issued a statement on Monday saying the Romney campaign will cancel all campaigns, citing that \"millions of Americans have lost their sensitivity on the road to Hurricane Sandy.
\"Look, they realize that they seem sensitive to the crisis.
But they really wanted to hold a rally in Dayton.
What are you doing?
How do you promise to cancel your political rally in order to appear sensitive, but in any case, you have to hold it?
Well, as far as Dayton and Mitt Romney were concerned yesterday, they held the same event at the same time, at the same place and with the same celebrity, they voted the same for Mitt Romney\'s campaign video at the Republican convention, but they just changed the name of the campaign.
They called it a storm rescue campaign, not a victory rally.
In order for people to call it storm relief, they made a major change at the campaign rally, that is, they asked people to bring canned food and groceries as donations to the Red Cross.
As we talked about on the show last night, one of the issues in this regard is that this is not actually the right way to donate to the Red Cross.
I mean, in the event of a natural disaster, the desire to give groceries and canned food comes from the right place, which is a good impulse, but unless you are specifically asked by rescue agencies or government officials to do so, donating canned goods and groceries does not help in logistics, especially across the country, especially if you are a presidential candidate and have received the attention of the national media, implicitly telling the people of the country that this is a way of helping and everyone should do so.
I\'m not just giving you my opinion on this issue.
The Red Cross made this clear on their website.
Under the FAQ on their website, they made it clear that while they thanked people for anything they wanted to help with, they did not actually accept --
Good money like this.
When they really want to help people, it just gives you a lot of extra work to do to sort out all your old jars, groceries and stuff.
The way you can actually help them is by donating blood or donating money.
Of course, let Mitt Romney make a photo op where people hand him the money, and people hand him the check probably won\'t be a good photo op like people hand him a bag of cans.
So the Romney campaign has set up a photo op where people can give him a bag of cans.
\"BuzzFeed\" reporter McKay Coppins took part in that event and added some important details today about how it all happened. Amazing story.
Clearly, the campaign is concerned that people will not bring enough cans and East West to donate, which will destroy the photos of Mitt Romney carrying cans in their plans.
So, quoting \"BuzzFeed\", the campaign assistant went to the local Walmart the night before the event and spent $5,000 on granola bars, canned food and diapers.
When supporters lined up to meet the candidates, a young volunteer from Romney/Ryan t-
The shirt stood up and shouted with both hands in your mouth: \"You need donations to queue up. ` Empty-
A woman handed to the supporters and asked them to defend the admission, and she asked, \"what if we put the donation in front of us ? \"?
The volunteers pointed to a pile of groceries conveniently placed near the candidate and said, \"grab something.
Two teenage boys each took back a jar of peanut butter and lined up, and when it was their turn they handed over their \"donations\" to Mr. Romney.
He took it over, smiled, and said earnestly, \"Thank you.
Clearly, the Romney campaign held their campaign rally, they called it storm rescue, they bought donations for the Red Cross, and then they handed them over to their supporters, in order to take pictures of them returning the donations to Mitt Romney, it therefore looks like he has received generous donations from those who he actually doesn\'t have the incentive.
If they bother to check with the Red Cross, the Red Cross doesn\'t actually want it.
They certainly don\'t want it to be modeled as the national behavior the Red Cross wants.
Again, the Red Cross, on the record, they don\'t want your jar if you really want to help, they want your money and your blood donation.
I don\'t know what the picture looks like, but you can text the word \"Red Cross\" to 90999.
This will give the Red Cross $10 and you will see it appear on your phone bill.
When you watch this show, you can do it now.
Text message \"90999\", the word \"Red Cross\", donated $10.
This will actually help.
You can go to the Red Cross.
Organize and donate through their website.
You can donate blood at a blood donation activity in your local hometown.
You can learn about blood donation from the local Red Cross.
This is a real disaster.
This is not a plot in a sitcom about how to run for president.
It was a real disaster that affected millions of Americans.
Really need real help.
This is different from taking advantage of the pain of millions of Americans to build up political capital for yourself, because you\'re trying to create what you\'re helping when you\'re not bothered to actually, try to really help.
This is very different. (
Start Video Editing)MITT ROMNEY (R)
Presidential candidate: it\'s been quite a long time in this country, as you know.
We are experiencing trauma in most parts of the country.
You have experienced this trauma more than once in Florida.
What\'s interesting is how people come together in this case.
Now, people come together and I believe what will happen in November 7. (APPLAUSE)(END VIDEO CLIP)
MADDOW: pretty much.
Helping those who are in danger of their lives because our fellow Americans are greatly affected, the national disaster at our largest population center is almost the same as helping Mitt Romney be elected!
It\'s almost the same, right?
Let\'s come together. Right? (
Forgive me for my jeans.
All of us, including me, who work at the show, live in suitcases.
Sorry, I forgot. Anyway. All right.
By population, these cities are one of the largest cities in the United States.
Some of the largest metropolitan areas in the United States.
Of course, there are 19 million people in New York\'s subway area, more than the population of all states except four in our country.
There is also the Los Angeles Metro, with nearly 13 million people.
Miami is in Florida.
The San Francisco Bay area is there.
In Tampa, St. Florida.
Area of St. Petersburg.
There is a Virginia Beach area, a metro area including Norfolk.
New Orleans, of course. So pop quiz.
What do all these big American cities have in common?
You can cheat by looking at this map.
What do all these huge centers of American mouth have in common?
The answer is that all these major American cities are on the edge of the United States, right by the sea, right by the sea.
Now, if you want, you can also add more big cities to this list.
Places like Philadelphia or Washington, D. C. C.
Or Houston or Providence, Rhode Island.
These are coastal cities because they are close to the coast and on the waterways.
Let\'s not even include these for debate.
Let\'s focus here on the narrow talk of metropolitan areas with a large population, which are right by the sea.
If you add up the population of coastal cities in the United States, the population of the United States is more than 63 million.
This means more than one out of every five Americans, which means that one out of every five Americans lives in the right metropolitan area, directly on the coast-the population is about the same as everyone who voted for John McCain or Barack Obama in 2008.
In the upcoming elections, a large part of the voting population is part of our country that lives on the edge.
As we continue to deal with and rescue the effects of this storm from the most populous region on the US coastline and recover from now on, the governor of New York has tried again and again to draw attention, this is not just an event, but it is a challenge for the whole country that such events may now occur more and more frequently.
Not only in New York, but also in all these densely populated places, the former places have a fairly predictable relationship with the water bodies and oceans they are adjacent.
What is predictability?
This balance and expectation has developed over the past few centuries, and these aquatic cities are now over.
People deny that climate change is a real thing and talk about whether we should try to stop climate change and global warming.
However, whether or not the political debate is resolved on the political stage, it may be resolved, as officials in charge of 60 million Americans living on the edge of our country have just begun a practical discussion on changes in the frequency of extreme weather. (
Start Video Editing)GOV. ANDREW CUOMO (D)
Climate change is a controversial topic, right?
People will argue whether there is climate change, whether it is a cycle, whether it is global warming.
This is a political debate that I don\'t want to participate in.
I would like to talk about the frequency of extreme weather conditions, which is not a political issue.
The frequency of extreme weather conditions has increased significantly, right?
We just had Hurricane Irene a year ago.
You can only say that this is once a lifetime and will never happen again.
Then it happened again.
And then we say, this is once in a lifetime, and now, really, certainly won\'t happen again, and then again.
I joke, we have a 100 every two years. year flood.
I believe this will happen again.
That\'s not what I pray, I believe. (END VIDEO CLIP)
MADDOW: Because of this storm, we have experienced a particularly non-partisan moment in American politics.
You asked the president to visit the disaster scene with the Republican governor today. The Republican governor had nothing to say about the president before.
But today, they obviously work together and work well together.
The expectation that there is an answer is that in our country people will put aside the political struggle in order to solve practical problems at this time.
Specifically, this means that the nuts and bolts are next. (
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New York Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan 1977-
2001: New York is the best port in the Atlantic.
It\'s not a port, but it\'s more.
This is the entrance to North America. KENNETH T.
Columbia University historian Jackson: New York cannot be understood except for this geographical location.
In fact, no city is more like New York than any city in the world, because here you have a real natural location for a great city.
It may be one of the three largest ports in the world.
The point is that in the heart of New York is an Island, Manhattan, so those Indians who are not in most parts of the United States, in the early 17 th century, on the island of Manhattan, because it is the natural location of a great city. (END VIDEO CLIP)
MADDOW: this is the beginning of a final documentary about New York City, New York: documentary.
As the natural location of a city, New York is socially and politically influenced by few new immigrants.
But fundamentally, New York has always been a city shaped by water.
The narrow island in the heart of Manhattan, Brooklyn and Queens in the east, is located on Long Island, five miles south of Manhattan, Staten Island.
Bronx is the only part of New York City on the mainland, surrounded by water on three sides.
If this week\'s super storm is not just an event of a lifetime, but an event of several years, as Andrew Como, governor of New York, now argues, then the whole country faces the problem that our largest American city, our largest population center, and our economic capital will defend ourselves as a nation.
This is a city built on the water.
What happens when our relationship with water fundamentally changes?
Now we are joined by documentary director Ric Burns. Mr.
Thank you very much for coming, Burns.
So glad you came.
Ric burns, documentary producer: It\'s a pleasure to be here, Rachel.
MADDOW: the reason why New York City is an industrial center is largely because of its natural location.
Do you think New York City is ready to face a changing environment?
Burns: You know, I think, it\'s a hard question to answer, to say, but I think it can be said to be more than anywhere else in this country, I mean, the location of New York is the fate of New York, but I think the fate here is more.
I think we are now entering a new stage of history.
We \'ve been around for a while, but I think Sandy really highlighted this very dramatically.
San Francisco and Hong Kong are among the three largest deep-water ports in the world, which is why New York became New York.
The Dutch can see it in the 17 th century and ride and Park in New York Harbor.
New Yorkers have an extraordinary ability to take advantage of their geographical position from the very beginning.
So I\'m not happy with the geography nature gave them in the early nineteenth century under the leadership of DeWitt Clinton.
They went out to build an Erie Canal 363 long.
The Hudson River and the Great Lakes in the heart of the United States connect the miles of New York Harbor.
So not only do they have the largest natural port in the Western Hemisphere, all the things that grow, mine, harvest, now have to be dropped down by the flooded battery three days ago.
I think the first time in New York is the New York provided by the port, the second time is the New York created by the Erie Canal, the city that really created you and me, I am talking this evening.
I think we are at the forefront of New York\'s third era.
Location is very effective for the advantages of New York.
Now, it\'s a rebound.
But I think New York has been pioneering because of these extraordinary geographical advantages, the population and business surge here, it has been at the forefront of new things, new people, new ideas, new products, new market.
But it has also been at the forefront since the new issue began.
It creates new urban problems, new ways to bring people together, and without water to people, it is impossible to provide them with new ways to work.
This means that New York has been working on new solutions since the beginning, not because New Yorkers are better, but because they are often the first to get there.
We are petri dishes.
MADDOW: that\'s most of the reason I want to talk to you about, because I feel like what\'s going on here, and it\'s showing up in New Orleans in a different way, in terms of talking about Katrina.
But what is happening here is that as a nation, we are aware that our politics is problematic at the national level.
But many of the correctness of public policy, particularly public policy affecting geographical regions, has affected large areas of our country in terms of land, all created by people forced to be there, despite politics.
Burns: that\'s absolutely right.
Not Democrats, not Republicans. MADDOW: Right.
Burns: It\'s an environment, part of it is a geographical Dent, part of it is caused by humans.
We have caused these problems.
As far as New York is concerned, you know, it has been trying to find new ways to connect itself.
As a result, it has built a subway system and found new ways to protect its infrastructure from the storm.
1988 blizzard-all the newspapers and brands in New York-
The new phone is on the ground and you can see these photos on 1880.
Where are they going? Underground.
At the same time, New Yorkers realize that you can\'t have public transport on the ground.
The weather is too dangerous.
What are they building?
Since the 1904 s, more than a century later, we began to deal with a series of new problems, which were largely caused by the avant-garde culture of New York.
A very successful business culture that now has the ability to reach out, not just to build an Erie Canal, can it reach out and change the climate of the whole planet?
So what are you going to do in this case?
You have to find something new.
Look for new mechanisms, structured, and infrastructure in an ideological, non-political way to deal with the consequences of your collective actions.
This is the case.
Such a solution cannot be privatized.
This is what we know.
By definition, they are open and collected issues, and solutions need to be presented both publicly and collectively.
And New York is not because New Yorkers are better, but because the problems here come too fast and too strong, and they have more experience and macro problems in dealing with such large problems, when they are produced by human beings.
So I feel that, at the risk of sounding like bolyanaish, I feel that the first line of hope for this huge storm system is going to be that it\'s happening here, that New Yorkers are used to thinking outside of their box, not only has Manhattan been created, but a larger New York City, which is five boroughs, and then the first, you know, Metropolis that extends to the east coast.
Now, they have to think, we have to think collectively, as a city, as a country, as a country, how do we create infrastructure to deal with the consequences of our own prosperity.
MADDOW: in history, support this challenge and what we are going through now
For me, the public capacity in New York is very grounded and very helpful, and that\'s why I want to talk to you tonight.
Rick Burns, is currently updating \"New York: Documentary.
Episode 9 will be broadcast in early 2014.
Burns: Yes, that\'s right.
Rick Burns, it\'s nice to have you here.
Thank you very much.
Thank you for inviting me, Rachel.
We will be back soon. (
Okay, campaign news.
Ohio, the one thing that just slammed by your ear wh, is any sense of restraint on you and outside the window.
The story is in front. (
Business break)MADDOW: OK.
Tonight, we do have another important news story from politics to cover, but I want to show you something first.
So now the blackout area covers a large part of the largest city in the United States.
Almost all lower Manhattan in New York City have been out of power for two days.
If you \'ve ever seen the skyline of Manhattan in the evening, it\'s always full of light. Right?
Like the Empire State Building earlier tonight.
But if you Pan from north to south, suddenly the video seems to turn black. Look at this. Oh.
Tonight, an NBC photographer took this picture on the roof of the dividing line between half of the island\'s power and the other half\'s power-free place.
Below is the way the Manhattan Bridge connects Lower Manhattan to Brooklyn.
Most of Brooklyn did not even lose power.
So half of the Brooklyn Bridge was illuminated.
Then slam, not Manhattan.
Frank Sinatra never sang anything about New York.
We will be back soon. (
Do you want to see a new storm? Look at this.
You can see the water coming in and the streets are flooded.
If I asked you where the video was taken, where would you say it was?
Jersey coast? Connecticut?
No, actually, this is Cleveland, Ohio, 500 miles off the Atlantic coast.
This was taken yesterday.
Sandy was cut off for at least three consecutive days in and around Cleveland.
Sandy has had a real local impact on the lives of Ohio residents.
But Sandy\'s March in Ohio also has an impact on the country, because of course Ohio is the most critical of all swing states.
Ohio, for example, is important in early voting.
They camped there.
As Sandy approaches, Ohio County reports that early voting is heavier than usual, and people rush to vote before the storm hits.
There\'s a lot of amazing things about Ohio\'s politics, but frankly, what I find most amazing in Ohio this year is that the Romney campaign chose to end their campaign there.
Romney publicly lied during the campaign that, despite President Obama\'s failure to do so, President Obama canceled his job requirements for benefits? Well, now Mr.
Romney re-launched a new ad in Ohio, the same old lie about welfare.
They brought it back at the end of the campaign.
The Romney campaign sent Senator Norm Coleman from Minnesota to Ohio, telling voters there that Mitt Romney had no intention of overthrowing Roy\'s game against Wade, although Mitt Romney himself said, he will do everything he can to overthrow Roy\'s game against Wade.
If that happens, he said, he would be happy to sign a bill banning all abortions at the federal level.
In Ohio last week.
Romney made a mistake, a complete mistake. (
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Romney: I saw a story today, a great manufacturer in this state, Jeep, which is now owned by Italians and is considering moving all production to China. (END VIDEO CLIP)
MoDo: that\'s not the case. Totally false.
Jeep did not do that.
The day Mitt Romney told reporters
For Ohio voters, Chrysler has announced that they are actually expanding in Ohio and Michigan.
They did not quit.
Mitt Romney\'s response to this instant fact is not to take it back, but to turn the lie into a new advertisement for Ohio.
He then purchased extra air time for it in Toledo, where workers in Ohio produce Jeeps, where they are mistakenly informed that your work will be shipped to China, possibly
Chrysler tried to get him again.
Quote Romney, \"Jeep production will not be transferred from the United States to China. ” Did Mr.
Romney got it back? No.
He turned it into another ad, a radio ad for Ohio.
He also said the entire car rescue plan was a huge failure.
This drew another company into fact-finding, G. M.
Of course, this has been saved by car rescue. A G. M.
The spokesman said to the media: \"We have clearly entered a parallel universe. ” Also from G. M.
\"At this stage, we are looking at the Hubble telescope --
Such as the distance between campaign advertising and reality.
But this is the case.
It\'s one thing to lie about your record or even your opponent\'s record. But what Mr.
What Romney is doing here is lying in the backyard of a third party.
You can tell him.
Romney\'s lies about Jeep in Ohio won\'t work in Ohio, in part because Ohio voters pay attention to the car industry like the local football team.
For example, the Romney campaign put these ads in Youngstown.
Look at \"Youngstown Vindicator \".
\"They reported on a local factory in July.
\"I think this part has something to do with our focus on quality and making sure the parts are correct so that we don\'t pass the problem further,\" said someone\'s cousin . \".
Here is the Youngstown newspaper about the factory expansion in August.
Citing \"the good news will be welcomed in the factory, in recent months, there have been rumors of production cuts in the factory, whether the third shift in the factory is dangerous.
Call Aunt Nelly and tell her we\'ll be fine.
I mean, when G. M.
This is the hometown news of Ohio, where workers are transferred or welcome back.
It\'s your dad, it\'s you, right?
Take a look at this in the Toledo Blade.
Today, I read the most stories in blade.
In the town where Mitt Romney runs his brand
The story of Chrysler and Jeep.
First, Marchionne countered Romney\'s statement.
\"Do you know that this unidentified Marchionne is enough to make this story the most popular story in your newspaper?
The audience of \"Toledo Blade\" knows who it is.
Chrysler Chief Executive Sergio Marchionne once again said they would not move jobs to China.
When you lie to the crowd in your hometown as a candidate about the news in your hometown, you can\'t expect the lie to float.
It\'s not floating.
According to the fact survey \"Columbus Dispatch\", \"Oh boy.
An editorial in Cleveland\'s real man says Romney has launched a Jeep strategy in Ohio.
\"Say what you want about Sir.
Romney\'s overall relationship with the truth throughout the campaign, saying he was prone to make a fool of himself or saying something, calling them lies, calling them lies.
Now he ends his campaign in Ohio and lies to Ohio, Ohio knows it\'s a lie and you can call it a mistake.
Now, it\'s time to say the last word to Lawrence O\'Donnell.
Have a good evening.
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